I’m Back!
Back at the desk in Brisbane. Unfortunately it’s still only 15 degrees celcius but I can’t insist on perfect weather all the time.
I checked in at A.E.Brain’ site and found a link to London Calling. I have included it on the right hand menu. Go read as it emphasises the fact that we are at war and it could well get worse.
I have a lot of admin to do and Legacy are demanding my presence but I will now post regularly again after having all my batteries recharged.
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War?
Yes. WAR!!!
Can’t see it myself.
That’s hardly surprising. You’d be lucky to find your ass with two hands.
Just like you can find your MSN & ICQ addresses, CB? On a serious note, Kevin, as someone who has been involved in a real war, you must surely admit that neither Iraq not Afghanistan are wars in the truest sense. More comparable to armed conflicts where external parties have imposed themselves on unwilling combatants. If Korea can be classified as a police action, I’d strongly suggest to you that Iraq & Afghanistan are little more than playground bullying.
Korean Police Action?!? Every source I have seen refers to it as the Korean War, including the people of both Koreas, past and present. The fellas of Maryang San and Kapyong would probably have something to say also.
Naill, there is still a truce between warring parties in Nth/Sth Korea. The UN authorised the repelling of Nth Korean forces by resolution. It was generally regarded as a ‘war’. Last time I checked, the RAAF P51’s and 3 RAR deployed to Maryang San didn’t have blue uniforms or bobby hats.
And the soldiers who are serving in Iraq are pretty sure they are at ‘war’ regardless of what you think about it.
“More comparable to armed conflicts where external parties have imposed themselves on unwilling combatants.”
Sure sounds like a war to me. If it looks like a duck…
Read your history and you’ll find Korea classified as a ‘Police Action’. You fellows would call a crack-down on a Fortitude Valley Corroboree a war if it suited your argument.
The people of North and South Korea refer to the Korean conflict as “Han Guuk Jon” (한국전 in Korean) or “Korea War”. But of course Niall, you would know better.
Have a read of these accounts and inform yourself.
http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/kapyong/doc.htm
http://www.awm.gov.au/korea/operations/maryang_san/maryang_san.htm
Niall, Doesn’t matter what the press might have called it in the days when no-one wanted to use the word WAR (too soon after WW2) it was a war.
The term Police Action was first used by Harry Truman to describe the Korean War….it sounded better for the politicians and media to use when discussing Korea.
Princeton Uni define it as “a local military action without declaration of war; against violators of international peace and order”
and Wikopedia says it came into use in the US after WW2.
In March 2003 Bush is reported as declaring war by the press but interestingly, in his speach, he doesn’t use the word ‘War’ but uses ‘conflict’ and ‘military operations’
So, Niall, you can call the current stoush a Police Action if you want but that’s only semantics. The world seems generally happy to refer to it as the War on/against Terror and I’m happy to refer to it as a war.
I use the word to try and convince people we are at war and we need to think that way. Semantic discussions like this will not help us prepare for being attacked by our self-declared enemy – the Moslem jihadists.
Lets face it, the current circumstances have all the earmarks of war. Tanks, mobilisation, attacking jets, casualty reports, media indifference, or worse, media bias, ships, aircraft carriers, clips of soldiers on TV news, grieving oldies, left-wing apathy or support of the enemy and, to cap it all off, we have an enemy who is dedicated to killing us and taking over our society based on weird interpretations of a holy book.
It has ever been thus.
Cattle carry ‘earmarks’ too, Kevin
mate – tell us about the Cape!
Matt,
I will. Need some time to get it all together