Why we do it.
Amos, a Tim Blair reader left a comment on Tims post about Dick Morris titled TRIANGULATE THIS. You should go to the post and scroll down to the comment but if your a gentle type and don’t like others using strong language I have edited the comment and included it below.
Since you ask I’ll tell you why we invaded Iraq: because Afghanistan will never be anything but a bandit-ridden hellhole, but Iraq is one of the centres of the muslim clutural world, the seat of the old Bahgdad calphate and the second biggest Shia muslim concentration in the ME after Iran. A democracy in Afghanistan will last only as long as the vareous illiterate warlords are being terrorised or bribed into line, but a democracy taking roots in Iraq will transform utterly the entire middle east. This is why absolutly every terrorist organisation, every Muslim dictatorship and every sleezy, oil-grubbing UN rep scumbag and his lawyer are trying to stop it. Democracy in Iraq is their death-kneil. If Dubya pulls this off he will have achieved in under a decade what the worlds vareous hand-wringing internationalist do-gooders and their bleating flocks of useful idiots in the media would not have achieved in a million years- the world’s first Arab democracy and the beginnings of the emergence of millions of people from medieval tyranny into the modern age.I’ve said it before. Amos has said it. All evidence supports it but we’re still looking for WMDs and I note the ABC tonight are running what must be it’s 423rd expose of the Abu Graib torture series. Some people just cannot see the big picture.
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Kev, I was reading a post on Todd Mackenzie’s site http://www.gravett.org/tm/ titled Just in case you had forgotten. It’s a good read, one the likes of that cockhead Tony Taliban Jones on Lateline should read.
Latham and Bob Brown condemned G.W.Bush over Iraq and claimed he had a pre-election agenda to invade Iraq because his daddy had some unfinished business. I think this article will shed some light on the whole thing for them. Mind you, that’s asking for a bit too much from “Bling Bling” and his greenie arselicker.
Have a read and take note of the names and dates. I can remember a lot of those comments.
The most amazing thing is that some of those that made these comments are now attacking Bush over the same view, particularly one John Kerry.
I concur entirely! Too many people, including some whose opinions I respect are not seeing the big picture with our actions in Iraq. We could chase the scumbags [Islamofacists] all over the earth and not accomplish much, since nationality means little to them. However to have a foothold of freedom right in their midst will could turn the tide. Iraq is a strategic move, not a tactical one.
Kev,
I was talking to one of my offsiders this morning, and the topic of disclosure came up. The discussion was about whether or not it was really OK to release some information from one party to another.
Suddenly, my offsider says, “You’ll be right, mate. You can always use the Major O’Kane defence.”
I stopped for a moment to work out what he was actually saying. Then the light switched on. To my colleague, Abu Ghraib is Children Overboard Mark II.
I sighed, and said, “Look, mate. If you were in a combat zone, who would you rather be captured by? Islamic ‘militants’ or US soldiers?”
“Well, until this Abu Ghraib scandal, probably the Arabs. Now, maybe us and the Yanks will probably have to abide by the Geneva conventions that we signed up to.”
Hmm…
“Uh, mate, don’t you think that you might encounter worse than a bit of naked roly poly if you got caught by the other team. You know, think of what happened to Nick Berg.”
Big shrug, then I get treated to his theory that the greatest military threat facing Australia is an invasion by the United States.
Now this guy is educated and is in a well paid job. We’re not talking about an Indymediot here. His ailment is that he is actually a dyed-in-the-wool ALP supporter.
The real battle for the West is to overcome this mindset. The ABC is simply singing to the choir about the Abu Ghraib and Gitmo beat ups. All of these compassionate, caring types couldn’t give a lovely shit about Machmed with the bag over his head, or the Talibandit, Hicks. These ‘victims’ simply represent a direct line of attack on the US.
This isn’t dissent. It is dogmatic, axiomatic anti-Americanism that allows no room for reason. How the hell do you fight this sort of unreasoning prejudice?
You don’t fight it – you just let it simmer on the stove. We news hounds are more aware than others of how these fools think and sometimes it’sthe only opinion you here or read.
It is amazing that educated men can think that way and your’e dead right about Abu Ghraib being Tampa2/Children Overboard. They are after the US but we must take heart, as I’ve often had to and put our trust in the Aussie voter. They simply don’t cop it.
Remember the people who think that way are definitely a minority and although they would like to think Howard is gone I don’t think so.
You’re right Kev, you can’t fight their mindset. They are a vocal minority who the ABC love to represent, just like their miniscule 15% viewer status.
It’s a long stretch between Abu Ghraib and Tampa but hey, fuck the facts if your Labor or the ABC (Arab Braodcast Corporation). But as for Tampa, the wannabe asylum seekers skuttled the vessle in the first place by rupturing the fuel tanks and setting them alight. That was captured on Navy video!!!So whether the kids were thrown, jumped or fell over the side is irrevelant and a moot point. The point is they still ended up in the ocean otherwise they would have burnt to death, so the outcome was a direct result of a deliberate action by the asylum seekers. Strange how Labor and the leftoids don’t elaborate on that fact !!
Bundy,
I reckon in reality, your friend wouldn’t hold true to his belief of who he would prefer to be detained by in a real situation. He should also consider that the only detainees that were sopposedly mal-treated were high value prisoners and there has always been diferent treatment towards those kind of prisoners and rightly so. Even the Geneva conventions have little value for these scum.
I hope you’ve had a chance to read the article posted on Todd McKenzies site (Just in case you had forgotten).
As for Labor or Latham gaining the reins, I wouldn’t be too sure that will happen. I think trying to appoint former Midnight Oil and NDP leader Baldy Garrett was further proof that Labor are extremely desparate and have totally lost their grip on reallity.
Anyway, Howard has done a great job, love him or hate him. Given the choice of rate rises that could cost voters their homes and businesses then I’m pretty sure the reallity of it all will translate back into Liberal votes.